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UNDER THE AUSPICES OF H.E. THE PRESIDENT OF THE HELLENIC REPUBLIC MS. KATERINA SAKELLAROPOULOU
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UNDER THE AUSPICES OF HIS ALL HOLINESS ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH BARTHOLOMEW
«NISYROS DIALOGUES®»
DIALOGUE BRIDGES ATHENS 2024
8 NOVEMBER, 2024
Hotel Grande Bretagne
«The US is Electing a New President
The Next Day for the Eastern Mediterranean»
Αuspices
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UNDER THE AUSPICES OF H.E. THE PRESIDENT OF THE HELLENIC REPUBLIC MS. KATERINA SAKELLAROPOULOU
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UNDER THE AUSPICES OF HIS ALL HOLINESS ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH BARTHOLOMEW
Dialogue Speakers

Evangelos
Venizelos

Dora
Bakoyannis

Charles
Ries
Adjunct Senior Fellow RAND Corporation
Dialogue Moderator

Pavlos
Tsimas
Media Sponsors

About
The «Nisyros Dialogues»®, a Think Tank|Forum, are held every year by the "Georgios M. Mihalos Foundation - Sustainability of Nisyros" NPO, which was established in 2021 and is an international center for the exchange of views and fruitful dialogue on issues of Geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean, Energy and Security, Environment, Akritic Island Sustainable Development and Interculturalism of Eastern Mediterranean.
In recent years the «Nisyros Dialogues»® have become a major event with the participation of important personalities from the fields of governments, politics, diplomacy, academia, civil society, business and journalism.
Invitation
We invite you to an evening of high level dialogue and political enrichment.
Just forty eight hours after the Presidential elections in the United States, we open the "Dialogue" on how the geopolitical situation in the Eastern Mediterranean will evolve and what Europe and Greece can expect in the region.
- Are the balances changing?
- How is the new international power calculus and geopolitical realities in the Eastern Mediterranean taking shape?
- Are the protagonists changing? Are interests being jumbled or upended? Are new ones being added?
With three prominent personalities, who have many years of experience and deep knowledge of international relations:
Mr. Evangelos Venizelos, former Deputy Prime Minister and former Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Ms. Dora Bakoyannis, MP of ND governing party, President of the Parliamentary Standing Committee on National Defense and Foreign Affairs and former Minister of Foreign Affairs, and,
US Ambassador a.h. Charles Ries, former US Ambassador to Greece, Adjunct Senior Fellow RAND Corporation, with great knowledge on the State Department and the region.
The "Dialogue" will be moderated by the distinguished TV journalist and international affairs analyst Mr. Pavlos Tsimas.
Press Release
A few days after the US elections, on Friday 8 November, the "Bridges of Nisyros Dialogues" are organising a high-level debate on:
“The US is Electing a New President - The Next Day for the Eastern Mediterranean”
Three prominent personalities will participate in the Dialogue:
- Former Deputy Prime Minister and former Minister of Foreign Affairs (2013-15) Mr.Evangelos Venizelos
- MP of ND governing party, President of the Parliamentary Standing Committee on National Defense and Foreign Affairs and former Minister of Foreign Affairs, (2006-09), Ms. Dora Bakoyannis, and,
- Former US Ambassador to Greece, Adjunct Senior Fellow RAND Corporation, with great knowledge on the State Department and the region, Ambassador Charles Ries.
With the results of the US Presidential elections, we open the "Dialogue" on how the geopolitical situation in the Eastern Mediterranean will evolve and what Europe and Greece can expect in the region.
The new and old protagonists on the diplomatic and political chessboard. Are the balances changing? Are the protagonists and their positions changing? How is the new map of the international power calculus and geopolitical realities in the Eastern Mediterranean taking shape? Are interests being jumbled or upended? Are new ones being added?
Answers to these questions, in the Dialogue on November 8, 2024, at 18.00 at the Grande Bretagne Hotel in Athens, by the "Dialogue Bridges" of the "Nisyros Dialogues - Bridging the East Med".
"Kathimerini" Newspaper, and the
Athenian-Macedonian News Agency
- The "Nisyros Dialogues - Bridging the East Med" was founded by the "Georgios M. Mihalos Foundation – Sustainability of Nisyros" in 2022. The "Dialogues" is a modern Think Tank/Forum with the aim of making the Eastern Mediterranean a region of sustainable development, cultural mutual understanding and international cooperation. Focusing on four axes of dialogue: the Geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean, Energy Security, Environment and Sustainable Insularity (Akritic Islands).
The "Nisyros Dialogues - Bridging the East Med", have become a leading Think Tank/Forum for dialogue on these four axes, a catalyst for promoting partnerships, a driving force for projects, as well as an essential and moral sponsor, together with other recognized institutions, for highlighting the geopolitical challenges of the Eastern Mediterranean in the new era.
Since their creation in 2022, the three annual "Nisyros Dialogues" have already taken place in Nisyros:
in 2022 the theme was: "The Sustainable Development of Small Islands & The Geopolitics of the Green Transition"
in 2023 with the title: "Islands in the New Era".
Last summer, 2024, the third "Dialogues" were held on the theme: "Europe and the Eastern Mediterranean: Geopolitics, Energy, Insularity". - The "Dialogue Bridges" are the "Nisyros Dialogues - Bridging the East Med", outside Nisyros. The "Nisyros Dialogues", going beyond the physical boundaries of Nisyros, will be taking place in the rest of Greece and abroad, taking the spirit of the "Nisyros Dialogues - Bridging the East Med" to new places, promoting the exchange of ideas and cultural mutual understanding on a global level, highlighting each time the themes that are the axes of the "Nisyros Dialogues - Bridging the East Med".
- The “Georgios M. Mihalos Foundation – Sustainability of Nisyros” was established in 2021 and is an international centre for the exchange of views and fruitful dialogue on issues of the Geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean, Energy Security, Environment and Sustainable Insularity (Akritic Islands), creating the «Nisyros Dialogues - Bridging the East Med» The purpose of the Foundation, in addition to striving in making the Eastern Mediterranean a region of sustainable development, cultural mutual understanding and international cooperation, is the protection and promotion of the natural and cultural heritage of the Nisyros archipelago, given its volcanic nature, in order to become a subject of international reflection and research. Through its initiatives and actions, the Foundation seeks to present on the international stage the unique local characteristics of the island, highlighting every element of its uniqueness, with the aim of protecting its natural environment.
Ιnterview with Charles Ries
frm. US Ambassador to Greece,
Adjunct Senior Fellow RAND Corporation,
in "To Vima," on the occasion of his Participation in the «Dialogue Bridges» Athens 2024
Ambassador Charles Ries, former U.S. Ambassador to Greece, Adjunct Senior Fellow RAND Corporation and expert on the State Department and the region, granted an interview to the newspaper To Vima, explaining the implications of the outcome of the American elections for our wider region and internationally.
Mr. Ries spoke, among other things, about the foreign policy of both American candidates and their possible actions regarding the management of the wars on the Middle East Front and in Ukraine.
Next Friday, the American diplomat who in 2008, at the behest of then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, hastily left his post in Greece and was posted to Baghdad to oversee the economic reconstruction of Iraq, will be back in Athens to participate in an event organized by “Georgios M. Mihalos Foundation” on the topic: "The US Elects a New President – The Day After for the Eastern Mediterranean".
What will the election of Mr. Trump mean for the war in Gaza-Lebanon and also in Ukraine?
The election of former President Trump would be more consequential to the war in Ukraine, though it would affect both conflicts.
Mr. Trump has said repeatedly that if he would be elected, he would end the war in Ukraine “in one day.” He has not been specific on how he would do this, but observers expect him to convoke Russia and Ukraine to negotiate an end to hostilities, with Ukrainian agreement obtained by a cutoff, or threatened cutoff, in U.S. military assistance if the Ukrainian side were to be uncooperative. Such an imposed settlement might well deprive Ukraine of the territory taken thus far by Russia, and, consistent with its expressed war aims, Russia would seek provisions guaranteeing that Ukraine would never join NATO. Such a settlement would worry many other eastern flank members of NATO, to say the least.
Mr. Trump’s election would be less consequential for the Gaza-Lebanon war in my view. The Israeli side is close to prevailing on their war aims to eliminate Hamas as a force in Gaza and to end Hezbollah’s targeting of Israeli communities (if not to eliminate Hezbollah itself). The current Israeli government led by Benjamin Netanyahu has been unwilling thus far to discuss the establishment of a horizon for Palestinian self-government committed to security and prosperity, even though the U.S., the EU, and Arab states believe such a horizon could hold the key to sustainable peace. Such an Israeli attitude would likely have Trump’s support if he were elected. Mr. Trump may also be more hands-off than the Biden team has been in the effort to improve humanitarian supplies and obtain a cease-fire and hostage release agreement.
What policies will the re-elected president launch in relation to NATO?
Apart from the Ukraine war termination issue discussed earlier, I would expect that, if the former President again would take office, his emphasis would again be to urge NATO members to dedicate more funding to defense expenditures. In any case, that has been a focus for NATO ever since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022. This year a majority of NATO members (including of course Greece) have met the target of 2% of GDP for defense. Trump may also be more responsive to Russian complaints about American troop deployments in Europe.
What will Ms. Harris do if elected US president on the Middle East and Ukraine front?
If Vice President Harris is elected, I would expect U.S. policy towards the Ukraine conflict to be similar to that of the current Biden administration. That means support for Ukrainian sovereignty, a continuation of supply of critical military materiel and economic assistance, in close consultation with EU and NATO partners.
A Harris administration would also be expected to continue the Biden administration’s policies in the Gaza and Lebanon/Hezbollah conflicts: support and understanding for Israel’s need to eliminate malign terrorist forces and secure return of hostages, while seeking an end to violence and a better future for Israelis and Palestinians alike, based on the longstanding vision of two states committed to peace, prosperity, and security.
Who benefited geopolitically after the start of the war in Gaza?
At first, it seemed to some as if the war would benefit Iran and its proxies. But it has not turned out that way. Israel’s Abraham Accords partners, while supportive of the two-state vision for Palestine, have not abandoned Israel. Hezbollah, which launched cross-border attacks out of sympathy for Hamas (and likely at the urging of Iran), has been greatly weakened. The Iranian-led so-called ‘Axis of Resistance’ has been the biggest loser, and other regional powers, including the U.S. have benefited.
How will the balance change after a possible strike by Israel on Iran and continuation of the war in the Middle East?
I would not expect the balance of power to change significantly if Israel should retaliate for Iranian attacks against it.
What should be done to ensure Europe's energy self-sufficiency while the war in Ukraine continues?
Europe should continue to seek a balanced, secure, and climate-conscious energy strategy regardless of developments in the war in Ukraine. But the war in Ukraine has illustrated the risks of dependence on major energy imports from insecure sources. Renewables, new safe nuclear generation, LNG terminals, new storage concepts, and strong energy efficiency strategies (including for buildings) can all play important roles. Azerbaijan, Georgia, Romania and Hungary are even teaming up on an electricity transmission line under the Black Sea.
What role should Greece play in the energy sector in the Eastern Mediterranean?
Greece is playing a critical role in strengthening energy security in the Eastern Mediterranean. Its support for competitive pipelines connecting new Mediterranean gas discoveries to European markets; its promotion of north-south energy and transport corridors to Eastern Europe and Italy, where Azerbaijan has committed to double gas volumes by 2027; its LNG terminals and connections to secure LNG suppliers such as the U.S.; and its vision in transforming its own electricity generation by capturing its ample solar and wind endowments all play important roles in this better future.
How damaging can Turkey's energy ambitions in the region and the role it aspires to play in the energy sector in the Middle East turn out to be?
Turkey’s energy ambitions are understandable given the needs of its economy. But Turkey should tackle energy challenges in coordination with NATO, Europe, and others, and there is potential room for Turkey to contribute to energy production. In playing a role in the Southern Gas Corridor (from Azerbaijan to Italy), Turkey helps advance European energy security objectives, and as noted, partners in that effort have recently agreed to double volumes to 20 billion cubic meters annually. To the extent that Turkey seeks to supply insecure Russian gas via Turkstream to European and Eastern Mediterranean markets, however, it could undercut energy security objectives. Even if Turkey only continues to use large quantities of Russian gas in its own economy, it introduces vulnerabilities into the NATO alliance. Turkish construction companies have long played a significant role in building energy facilities in the Gulf, but these are under the ownership and management of the countries of the region.
NATO must react to the agreements between Tayyip Erdoğan and Vladimir Putin for nuclear investments in Turkey for the nuclear plant in Akuyu? The plant will be located near the Incirlik base and thus near NATO facilities.
Turkey, as a NATO member, as a NATO member, has an obligation to be transparent and forthcoming on its sensitive dealings with Russia. Security issues must be discussed in the appropriate Alliance forums. I am not privy to details. The Incirlik facility is a Turkish base which allows some NATO countries access under very specific and limited conditions.
Which are NATO's challenges in the current unstable geopolitical context?
NATO’s challenges are the same as the always have been: to maintain Alliance cohesion and capabilities, and to adjust its strategic concept to the opportunities and risks that members face in today’s world. On the cohesion side, NATO members must stay in close coordination in assisting Ukraine resist unprovoked invasion by Russia. On the capabilities side, NATO forces need to modernize rapidly to cope with technological changes in war, including applications in war of artificial intelligence and autonomous aerial, terrestrial and naval vehicles.